Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270513AbUJUKW6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:22:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270384AbUJUKUl (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:20:41 -0400 Received: from 213-239-205-147.clients.your-server.de ([213.239.205.147]:22691 "EHLO debian.tglx.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S270611AbUJUKTr (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:19:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-rc4-mm1-U8 From: Thomas Gleixner Reply-To: tglx@linutronix.de To: Jens Axboe Cc: Rui Nuno Capela , Ingo Molnar , LKML , Lee Revell , mark_h_johnson@raytheon.com, "K.R. Foley" , Bill Huey , Adam Heath , Florian Schmidt , Michal Schmidt , Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano In-Reply-To: <20041021101103.GC10531@suse.de> References: <20041015102633.GA20132@elte.hu> <20041016153344.GA16766@elte.hu> <20041018145008.GA25707@elte.hu> <20041019124605.GA28896@elte.hu> <20041019180059.GA23113@elte.hu> <20041020094508.GA29080@elte.hu> <30690.195.245.190.93.1098349976.squirrel@195.245.190.93> <1098350190.26758.24.camel@thomas> <20041021095344.GA10531@suse.de> <1098352441.26758.30.camel@thomas> <20041021101103.GC10531@suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: linutronix Message-Id: <1098353505.26758.38.camel@thomas> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:11:45 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1525 Lines: 43 On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 12:11, Jens Axboe wrote: > On Thu, Oct 21 2004, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 11:53, Jens Axboe wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 21 2004, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 11:12, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > > > > > [] queuecommand+0x70/0x7c [usb_storage] (24) > > > > > > > > As I already pointed out, this is a problem due to up(sema) in > > > > queuecommand. That's one of the semaphore abuse points, which needs to > > > > be fixed. > > > > > > > > The problem is that semaphores are hold by Process A and released by > > > > Process B, which makes Ingo's checks trigger > > > > > > That's utter crap, it's perfectly valid use. > > > > It's not! > > > > >From the code: > > > > init_MUTEX_LOCKED(&(us->sema)); > > > > This is used to wait for command completion and therefor we have the > > completion API. It was used this way because the ancestor of completion > > (sleep_on) was racy ! > > I didn't look at the USB code, I'm just saying that it's perfectly valid > use of a semaphore the pattern you describe (process A holding it, > process B releasing it). Yeah, for a semaphore it is, but not for a mutex. IMHO, this is not clearly seperated and therefor produces a lot of confusion. tglx - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/