Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S271448AbUJVQyV (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:54:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S271430AbUJVQwC (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:52:02 -0400 Received: from zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com ([47.129.242.56]:52457 "EHLO zcars04e.nortelnetworks.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S271432AbUJVQuy (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:50:54 -0400 Message-ID: <41793A63.30908@nortelnetworks.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:50:43 -0600 X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: Chris Friesen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Timothy Miller CC: Greg Buchholz , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: HARDWARE: Open-Source-Friendly Graphics Cards -- Viable? References: <82D5E38355314D46AF3015FF55F6955802F83515@CORPMAIL3> <4177FF47.5040005@techsource.com> <20041021213600.GB675@sleepingsquirrel.org> <41783ADB.8030802@techsource.com> <20041021234053.GC675@sleepingsquirrel.org> <417939F1.8090601@techsource.com> In-Reply-To: <417939F1.8090601@techsource.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1146 Lines: 25 Timothy Miller wrote: > Anyhow, the reason for that long discussion is because I see chip design > and software programming as generally incompatible mindsets. Sure, one > can certainly help you to learn the other, but many methodologies that > apply to one would be horrible to apply to the other. Hmm...I've got a buddy doing a Master's in codesign, where you literally design the chip and the software to run on it at the same time, so you can simulate them both at the same time and optimise which bits you do in hardware and which in software. Seems to me that chip design and software programming (at least for low-level high-performance stuff) are tightly intertwined. Of course there's the other side of things where you write in prolog or lisp and are totally abstracted from the hardware--but I don't see too many people writing e.g. graphics drivers in those languages. Chris - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/