Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266245AbUJVRZy (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:25:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266252AbUJVRNN (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:13:13 -0400 Received: from lum.tdiedrich.de ([193.24.211.71]:47261 "EHLO lum.tdiedrich.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S271453AbUJVRFs (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:05:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:05:32 +0200 From: Tobias Diedrich To: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: HARDWARE: Open-Source-Friendly Graphics Cards -- Viable? Message-ID: <20041022170531.GA449@melchior.yamamaya.is-a-geek.org> Mail-Followup-To: Tobias Diedrich , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <4176E08B.2050706@techsource.com> <4177ABC9.24323.20E9CA71@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4177ABC9.24323.20E9CA71@localhost> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7168 1190 37D2 06E8 2496 2728 E6AF EC7A 9AC7 E0BC X-GPG-Key: http://www.uguu.de/~ranma/gpg-key User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus: No X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=0.92.7 X-Spam: No Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1805 Lines: 35 Kendall Bennett wrote: > Wrong. Companies *have* tried to go down the Open Source route and it did > not work out for them. ATI in particular. At one point ATI released all > the register level information and in fact released sample 3D driver > source code to the community for the early Radeon chipsets. Unfortunately > the Linux and Open Source community never stepped up to the plate to > support ATI in this effort. There are solid business reasons that ATI has > explained to me for why ATI decided to give up on the Open Source > approach and go back to proprietary 3D drivers for Linux. Really? AFAICS you have to register as a developer with ATI and "The acceptance of Developer by ATI [...] is subject to approval by ATI in its sole discretion". At least I don't see any downloadable hardware level documentation at http://www.ati.com/developer/. Maybe I just didn't look hard enough? BTW, I'd be mainly interested in how to access 2D Accelerator functions, video overlay and DMA, so if you could give me some pointer on how to obtain documentation on that for radeon 8500 or rage128 pro class cards, it would be very nice. I have to admit I did not try registering yet, because it seemed to much of a hassle for "I just like to have the documentation for my hardware" and to me it seems doubtfull I would be accepted just for that reason. -- Tobias PGP: http://9ac7e0bc.uguu.de Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature. -- Rich Kulawiec np: Tales of Symphonia Original Soundtrack: Memories of Sylvarant - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/