Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267301AbUJVR6Q (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:58:16 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266820AbUJVRfQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:35:16 -0400 Received: from kinesis.swishmail.com ([209.10.110.86]:7441 "EHLO kinesis.swishmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267543AbUJVR3f (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:29:35 -0400 Message-ID: <41794650.1030208@techsource.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:41:36 -0400 From: Timothy Miller MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Friesen CC: Greg Buchholz , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: HARDWARE: Open-Source-Friendly Graphics Cards -- Viable? References: <82D5E38355314D46AF3015FF55F6955802F83515@CORPMAIL3> <4177FF47.5040005@techsource.com> <20041021213600.GB675@sleepingsquirrel.org> <41783ADB.8030802@techsource.com> <20041021234053.GC675@sleepingsquirrel.org> <417939F1.8090601@techsource.com> <41793A63.30908@nortelnetworks.com> In-Reply-To: <41793A63.30908@nortelnetworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1384 Lines: 33 Chris Friesen wrote: > Timothy Miller wrote: > >> Anyhow, the reason for that long discussion is because I see chip >> design and software programming as generally incompatible mindsets. >> Sure, one can certainly help you to learn the other, but many >> methodologies that apply to one would be horrible to apply to the other. > > > Hmm...I've got a buddy doing a Master's in codesign, where you literally > design the chip and the software to run on it at the same time, so you > can simulate them both at the same time and optimise which bits you do > in hardware and which in software. > > Seems to me that chip design and software programming (at least for > low-level high-performance stuff) are tightly intertwined. > > Of course there's the other side of things where you write in prolog or > lisp and are totally abstracted from the hardware--but I don't see too > many people writing e.g. graphics drivers in those languages. > Oh, they are intertwined, alright. They just require different mindsets to do either of then WELL. I'm sure your friend is equally adept at both mindsets, so that isn't an issue. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/