Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269729AbUJWBp6 (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:45:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269586AbUJWBnW (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:43:22 -0400 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:40197 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S269759AbUJWBkg (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:40:36 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 03:40:04 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Willy Tarreau Cc: espenfjo@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: My thoughts on the "new development model" Message-ID: <20041023014004.GG22558@stusta.de> References: <7aaed09104102213032c0d7415@mail.gmail.com> <7aaed09104102214521e90c27c@mail.gmail.com> <20041022225703.GJ19761@alpha.home.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041022225703.GJ19761@alpha.home.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1575 Lines: 44 On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 12:57:03AM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote: > On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 11:52:50PM +0200, Espen Fjellv?r Olsen wrote: >... > > A 2.7 should be created where all new experimental stuff is merged > > into it, and where people could begin to think new again. > > This could be true if the release cycle was shorter. But once 2.7 comes > out, many developpers will only focus on their development and not on > stabilizing 2.6 as much as today. 2.6.9 -> 2.6.10-rc1: - 4 days - > 15 MB patches It's a bit optimistic to call this amount of change "stabilizing". 2.6 is corrently more a development kernel than a stable kernel. The last bug I observed personally was the problem with suspending when using CONFIG_REGPARM=y together with Roland's waitid patch which was added in 2.6.9-rc2. If I'd used 2.6.9 with the same .config as 2.6.8.1, this was simple one more bug... IMHO Andrew+Linus should open a short-living 2.7 tree soon and Andrew (or someone else) should maintain a 2.6 tree with less changes (like Marcelo did and does with 2.4). > Willy cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/