Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266009AbUJVRc3 (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:32:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267466AbUJVR1J (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:27:09 -0400 Received: from daffy.napanet.net ([206.81.96.18]:47119 "EHLO mx1.napanet.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266888AbUJVRSx (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:18:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:15:29 -0700 From: Stephen Lewis To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: HARDWARE: Open-Source-Friendly Graphics Cards -- Viable? Message-Id: <20041022101529.732254eb.lewis@napanet.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.8; powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1558 Lines: 31 Timothy Miller wrote: > The reason this idea came up is because I, as a user of Linux, am often > frustrated by the lack of open-source support for graphics cards which > are not "pre-owned". Sure, SOME companies release specs so that we can > develop open source drivers, but those cards tend to be prohibitively > expensive, slower than their cheaper counterparts from ATI or nVidia, > and they STILL don't document the internals of the BIOS so that the card > can be ported to a non-x86 system. What has this to do with the kernel? More relevant on X server, OpenGL or GPGPU lists? Baseline - I can get accelerated 3D graphics and video overlay and YV12 and VGA registers with open source driver that compiles for PowerPC and DEC Alpha today for $85 - Radeon 7500 PCI. X.org 'ati' driver at http://x.org http://freedesktop.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/?root=xorg If you can improve on that then I will buy one for each of my Alpha and PowerPC systems. http://www.gpgpu.org/ are programming multivendor graphics cards for general purpose computing BUT the toolchain involves a proprietary compiler which is single platform. What good is a card with open source hardware and open source driver that is programmable BUT the toolchain is proprietary? Stephen Lewis - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/