Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261385AbUJXI1h (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:27:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261387AbUJXI1g (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:27:36 -0400 Received: from pauli.thundrix.ch ([213.239.201.101]:15545 "EHLO pauli.thundrix.ch") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261385AbUJXI1d (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:27:33 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:24:30 +0200 From: Tonnerre To: "Martin Schlemmer [c]" Cc: Timothy Miller , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: HARDWARE: Open-Source-Friendly Graphics Cards -- Viable? [u] Message-ID: <20041024082430.GB11655@thundrix.ch> References: <4176E08B.2050706@techsource.com> <1098310747.15115.64.camel@nosferatu.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1098310747.15115.64.camel@nosferatu.lan> X-GPG-KeyID: 0x8BE1C38D X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1AB0 9AD6 D0C8 B9D5 C5C9 9C2A FF86 CBEE 8BE1 C38D X-GPG-KeyURL: http://users.thundrix.ch/~tonnerre/tonnerre.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040803i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1936 Lines: 58 --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Salut, On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 12:19:07AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer [c] wrote: > > (3) How do you feel about the choice of neglecting 3D performance as a= =20 > > priority? How important is 3D performance? In what cases is it not? >=20 > Yeah, I think it is important - just for decent performance in > gnome/kde, you need a card with accel RENDER support, as well as XV/GL > for video. Not to talk about those of us that are heavy gamers, or like > me who like my ut2004/quake3/nvn once or twice a week. OpenGL should be enough to get RENDER working. The rest may be based on. > The reality of the issue is just while I love my linux, I rather > taint my kernel than crappy X performance or no gaming now and then. The NVidia driver hangs my system after around 10 minutes, and if I write additional media drivers and other things, I sometimes end up with if (ptr) ptr->blah(ptr); failing with ptr being dereferenced as a NULL pointer, which shouldn't happen as I just checked it. To people developing the kernels, NVidia and other closed source drivers are desasterous, as you can't seem to find out what the hell they're doing, apart from graphics. Tonnerre --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.9.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBe2a9/4bL7ovhw40RAojiAKClukGeOxhTeWo9mrhPoKlBTZsyjgCgr4Wn 4WSVWf6WXM9g0OQAFFYZF88= =tJSS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/