Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261459AbUJXMkU (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:40:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261460AbUJXMkU (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:40:20 -0400 Received: from vsmtp3alice.tin.it ([212.216.176.143]:38833 "EHLO vsmtp3alice.tin.it") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261459AbUJXMkJ (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:40:09 -0400 Message-ID: <417BBEFD.9080308@futuretg.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:41:01 +0000 From: "Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando" Organization: Future Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; es-ES; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040626 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hans Reiser CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Reiserfs developers mail-list , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: 2.6.9-mm1 References: <20041022032039.730eb226.akpm@osdl.org> <4179425A.3080903@namesys.com> In-Reply-To: <4179425A.3080903@namesys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2630 Lines: 77 Hans Reiser wrote: > Andrew Morton wrote: > >> >> - reiser4: not sure, really. The namespace extensions were disabled, >> although all the code for that is still present. Linus's filesystem >> criterion used to be "once lots of people are using it, preferably >> when >> vendors are shipping it". That's a bit of a chicken and egg thing >> though. >> Needs more discussion. >> >> >> > No distro using reiserfs V3 as the default is going to keep doing so > once reiser4 meets their stability requirements. Reiserfs is used by a > lot of people, and reiser4 obsoletes it, and the users know that. I agree that OS that choose ReiserFS for default now will adopt Reiser4 instead ReiserFS 3, .... but they need to continue to support ReiserFS 3 as well Reiser4 ... In some sense this is equivalent to ext2 and ext3. Thanks, Giovanni > None of the distros have expressed any intent of staying on V3, and > they'd be silly to do it. Many of them have expressed a desire to use > reiser4. Next year, indications are that reiser4 usage by distros as > their default will exceed that which is today possessed by V3. The > higher performance of V4 is going to increase our market share. > > I would like to encourage its inclusion as an experimental filesystem > BEFORE vendors ship it. I think first putting experimental stuff in > the kernels used by hackers makes sense. I think it creates more of a > community. > > I'd like to point out that there is a lot of stuff in the kernel that > is a lot less stable than reiser4. > > That said, inclusion in -mm found some bugs, and we are still testing > one of the fixes which was a bit deep. I want to finish that testing > (not more than 7 days) and send you all fixes before asking for > inclusion. > > Also, Hellwig made a valid point about getting rid of some macros that > reduce readability (I also hate code that prevents editors finding > called functions), and zam is working on fixing that. > > Lindows is planning on shipping with reiser4 in its next release. I > would very much like to see our inclusion before that. > -- -- -- Check FT Websites ... http://www.futuretg.com - ftp://ftp.futuretg.com http://www.FTLinuxCourse.com http://www.FTLinuxCourse.com/Certification http://www.rpmparadaise.org http://GNULinuxUtilities.com http://www.YourPersonalOperatingSystem.com -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/