Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261499AbUJXO1t (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:27:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261503AbUJXO1t (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:27:49 -0400 Received: from ctb-mesg5.saix.net ([196.25.240.77]:40653 "EHLO ctb-mesg5.saix.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261498AbUJXO0n (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:26:43 -0400 Subject: Re: HARDWARE: Open-Source-Friendly Graphics Cards -- Viable? [u] From: "Martin Schlemmer [c]" Reply-To: Martin Schlemmer To: Tonnerre Cc: Timothy Miller , Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20041024082430.GB11655@thundrix.ch> References: <4176E08B.2050706@techsource.com> <1098310747.15115.64.camel@nosferatu.lan> <20041024082430.GB11655@thundrix.ch> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-tOP9dfET2W1zgQVpQ00S" Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:26:25 +0200 Message-Id: <1098627985.12420.7.camel@nosferatu.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2321 Lines: 68 --=-tOP9dfET2W1zgQVpQ00S Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 10:24 +0200, Tonnerre wrote: > Salut, >=20 > On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 12:19:07AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer [c] wrote: > > > (3) How do you feel about the choice of neglecting 3D performance as = a=20 > > > priority? How important is 3D performance? In what cases is it not? > >=20 > > Yeah, I think it is important - just for decent performance in > > gnome/kde, you need a card with accel RENDER support, as well as XV/GL > > for video. Not to talk about those of us that are heavy gamers, or lik= e > > me who like my ut2004/quake3/nvn once or twice a week. >=20 > OpenGL should be enough to get RENDER working. The rest may be based > on. >=20 > > The reality of the issue is just while I love my linux, I rather > > taint my kernel than crappy X performance or no gaming now and then. >=20 > The NVidia driver hangs my system after around 10 minutes, and if I > write additional media drivers and other things, I sometimes end up with >=20 > if (ptr) > ptr->blah(ptr); >=20 > failing with ptr being dereferenced as a NULL pointer, which shouldn't > happen as I just checked it. >=20 > To people developing the kernels, NVidia and other closed source > drivers are desasterous, as you can't seem to find out what the hell > they're doing, apart from graphics. >=20 I did not say I like it, but its better than nothing. My system here at home had an uptime of near 20 days before I rebooted for 2.6.9-mm1 with nvidia driver (intel i875), but at work (nforce1) it freezes if I scroll in gnumeric with same driver. I guess it depends what setup. --=20 Martin Schlemmer --=-tOP9dfET2W1zgQVpQ00S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBBe7uRqburzKaJYLYRAro5AJ4iFHPlxle56axsYNizqGHI4bmLQwCfWFOY CEqylZO6ILBKPtGru+HGHRk= =k58j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-tOP9dfET2W1zgQVpQ00S-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/