Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:24:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:24:17 -0400 Received: from snark.tuxedo.org ([207.106.50.26]:16903 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:24:01 -0400 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:24:22 -0400 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: David Woodhouse Cc: Alexander Viro , Francois Romieu , CML2 , kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: Request for comment -- a better attribution system Message-ID: <20010422122422.A29084@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , David Woodhouse , Alexander Viro , Francois Romieu , CML2 , kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: <20010422114648.G28605@thyrsus.com> <20010422133947.A21908@se1.cogenit.fr> <20010422114648.G28605@thyrsus.com> <27871.987955675@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <27871.987955675@redhat.com>; from dwmw2@infradead.org on Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 05:07:55PM +0100 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org David Woodhouse : > esr@thyrsus.com said: > > I've had my nose rubbed in how things really work. That's why I want > > to fix the things that are broken about how things really work. > > Then you're going to conjure up maintainers for the code which is currently > orphaned? That's a *really* hard problem. I don't know how to solve that one myself. There are, however, other things that can be done to improve the way things work. Two things in particular: (1) to lower the technical and social barriers to entry so that maintainers will conjure *themselves* up with more frequency, and (2) to ... hmm, no, on reflection I think won't say that explicitly. It would scare the conservatives too much. However, if you think about it, you'll notice there's a common thread in all the proposals I've been making. If you still have trouble seeing it, remember that I hack social systems as much as I hack code. And consider lkml as a social machine. And consider -- carefully -- the things it is demonstrably poor at. -- Eric S. Raymond Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences. -- C. S. Lewis - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/