Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262216AbUJZKpL (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:45:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262215AbUJZKpK (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:45:10 -0400 Received: from mail.aei.ca ([206.123.6.14]:63424 "EHLO aeimail.aei.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262213AbUJZKpD (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:45:03 -0400 From: Ed Tomlinson Organization: me To: Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: My thoughts on the "new development model" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:44:46 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 Cc: Bill Davidsen , William Lee Irwin III , linux-kernel References: <200410260142_MC3-1-8D2A-45C2@compuserve.com> In-Reply-To: <200410260142_MC3-1-8D2A-45C2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410260644.47307.edt@aei.ca> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1445 Lines: 36 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 01:40, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: > > > I don't see the need for a development kernel, and it is desirable to be > > able to run kernel.org kernels. > > Problem is, kernel.org 'release' kernels are quite buggy. For example 2.6.9 > has a long list of bugs: > > - superio parports don't work > - TCP networking using TSO gives memory allocation failures > - s390 has a serious security bug (sacf) > - ppp hangup is broken with some peers > - exec leaks POSIX timer memory and loses signals > - auditing can deadlock > - O_DIRECT and mmap IO can't be used together > - procfs shows the wrong parent PID in some cases > - i8042 fails to initialize with some boards using legacy USB > - kswapd still goes into a frenzy now and then > > Sure, the next release will (may?) fix these bugs, but it will definitely > add a whole set of new ones. To my mind this just points out the need for a bug fix branch. e.g. a branch containing just bug/security fixes against the current stable kernel. It might also be worth keeping the branch active for the n-1 stable kernel too. Ed PS. we could call this the Bug/Security or bs kernels. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/