Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262290AbUJZPOq (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:14:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262291AbUJZPOq (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:14:46 -0400 Received: from kinesis.swishmail.com ([209.10.110.86]:1803 "EHLO kinesis.swishmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262290AbUJZPOo (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:14:44 -0400 Message-ID: <417E6CF3.503@techsource.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:27:47 -0400 From: Timothy Miller MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giuseppe Bilotta CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Some discussion points open source friendly graphics [was: HARDWARE: Open-Source-Friendly Graphics Cards -- Viable?] References: <417D21C8.30709@techsource.com> <417D6365.3020609@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1471 Lines: 40 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: > Timothy Miller wrote: > >>>The reprogramability of the FPGA has many advantages, but >>>reprogramability is not its primary purpose. The primary reason to use >>>an FPGA is to minimize NRE for manufacturing. However, as a result, >>>users will be able to download updates. Additionally, those who are > > > Jeff Garzik wrote: > >>Will the capability to apply these updates be included with the base card? >>Will users need to purchase additional "update FPGA" hardware to do the >>reprogramming? > > > Also, what if the reprogramming goes wrong? Do I just throw the > card away or will there be some form of recovery possible? > For those who are taking the risk of reprogramming it completely, they'll already have read the schematics and instructions for using an external device to program the PROM. For everyone else, it's the same problem you get when programming a motherboard goes awry. When the BIOS is hosed, you can't use the MB until you replace the chip. For cost reasons, we likely wouldn't socket the chip, so you'd probably have to send it in for an RMA. We'd reprogram it, and send it back. Or if you have a friend with the right tools, they can do it. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/