Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261321AbUJZQGA (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:06:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261312AbUJZQGA (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:06:00 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39]:7671 "EHLO rwcrmhc13.comcast.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261322AbUJZQBg (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:01:36 -0400 Message-ID: <417E74DD.6000203@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:01:33 -0400 From: John Richard Moser User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041022) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Espen_Fjellv=E6r_Olsen?= CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: My thoughts on the "new development model" References: <7aaed09104102213032c0d7415@mail.gmail.com> <7aaed09104102214521e90c27c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7aaed09104102214521e90c27c@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2753 Lines: 73 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Espen Fjellv?r Olsen wrote: | This may come a bit late now, since the "new development model" was | put through late this summer. | But anyway i'm going to come with som thoughts about it. | | I think that 2.6 should be frozen from now on, just security related | stuff should be merged. | This would strengthen Linux's reputation as a stable and secure | system, not a unstable and a system just used for fun. | A 2.7 should be created where all new experimental stuff is merged | into it, and where people could begin to think new again. | New thoughts are good in all ways, it is for sure very much code in | the current kernels that should be revised, rewritten and maybe marked | as deprecated. | | :) I agree fully. I've been quite worried and annoyed. While I do think the newest releases and the changes in 2.6.9 and .10 are damn cool, and i want them, I also won't let go of PaX. PaX stopped at 2.6.7 because of internal VM changes; the kernel's unstable state is making it an undue amount of work for the PaX team to update PaX for the newest kernels. If all the time is spent porting it up to the new VM changes, then there is no time for bugfixes and improvements. PaX is a core component of GrSecurity as well; as long as the PaX project is halted at 2.6.7, GrSec can't pass 2.6.7. How many other projects are going to sit at 2.6.7, or are going to spend too much time up-porting and not enough time bugfixing and enhancing? I do not propose freezing *now* if it's not convenient; I say you pick what you want to finish up (maybe some of the Montavista stuff; I'd personally like voluntary pre-empt and friends at least), get that in, and slate any new developments for a 2.6.7 branch to be forked off whenever is appropriate. | | -- | Mvh / Best regards | Espen Fjellv?r Olsen | espenfjo@gmail.com | Norway | - | To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in | the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org | More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html | Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ | - -- All content of all messages exchanged herein are left in the Public Domain, unless otherwise explicitly stated. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBfnTdhDd4aOud5P8RAlsMAJ9ppwugKHeXm9pjDePNyRuQ9mTvZACfXwNR Tj930yU5hMJFrbj27ez3lWQ= =XEVU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/