Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261461AbUJZU6z (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:58:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261465AbUJZU6z (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:58:55 -0400 Received: from hermine.aitel.hist.no ([158.38.50.15]:8973 "HELO hermine.aitel.hist.no") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261461AbUJZU4p (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:56:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:02:43 +0200 To: Timothy Miller Cc: Lars Roland , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: HARDWARE: Open-Source-Friendly Graphics Cards -- Viable? Message-ID: <20041026210243.GA27123@hh.idb.hist.no> References: <4176E08B.2050706@techsource.com> <4ad99e05041025093856cd16ba@mail.gmail.com> <417D32F0.20100@techsource.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <417D32F0.20100@techsource.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i From: Helge Hafting Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1935 Lines: 56 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 01:08:00PM -0400, Timothy Miller wrote: > > > Lars Roland wrote: > > > > >For my own part I can tell you, that a dual head dvi card is high on > >my wish list (if it can run 1200*1600 on each head), if you can make > >one with Linux support, then I would be happy to pay 200-300$ for it, > >even if it did not have the best 3D support (just enough power for > >future xorg/enlightenment effect and I am happy). > > > > > > I expect that we will offer a multi-head model. Great! Will this be a card with two pci id's, and two fully independent graphichs accelerators? That is necessary for two-user setups. A single-user setup with xinerama use a single xserver process that can deal with hardware dependencies. A two-user setup use two xserver processes that doesn��'t cooperate at all. One basically doesn�'t know that the other exists, so it cannot know what register the other process messes with and so on. A dual processor machine might even mean that both servers runs simultaneosuly - so there cannot be dependencies. Also, an xserver likes to reserve a pci ID for itself, so life gets much easier if the card has two pci ids - i.e. two graphichs cards on a single circuit board. Of course I am willing to pay twice the single-card price for such a card that has two of every chip (except for the shared bus interface circuits). I hope such a design won't be too much extra work, basically you design the single-card accelerator FPGA and other supporting chips and stuff two of everything on the same PCB. Note that this "double" card improves performance for the more common case of one user with two screens too. :-) Helge Hafting - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/