Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262604AbUJ0SBt (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:01:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262601AbUJ0R4u (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:56:50 -0400 Received: from holomorphy.com ([207.189.100.168]:47488 "EHLO holomorphy.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262597AbUJ0R4G (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:56:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:55:00 -0700 From: William Lee Irwin III To: "Theodore Ts'o" Cc: John Richard Moser , Willy Tarreau , Rik van Riel , "Marcos D. Marado Torres" , Ed Tomlinson , Massimo Cetra , "'Chuck Ebbert'" <76306.1226@compuserve.com>, "'Bill Davidsen'" , "'linux-kernel'" Subject: Re: My thoughts on the "new development model" Message-ID: <20041027175500.GH2653@holomorphy.com> References: <20041027051342.GK19761@alpha.home.local> <20041027052321.GT15367@holomorphy.com> <417FA711.90700@comcast.net> <20041027145743.GA16666@thunk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041027145743.GA16666@thunk.org> Organization: The Domain of Holomorphy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1178 Lines: 26 On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 10:57:45AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > So instead of kvetching, why don't you > (a) Create your own stable series by snapshotting some 2.6.x tree > every six months, and then maintain a set of bug-fix only patches > against that 2.6.x tree? Then convince the security people to port to > that particular 2.6.x-jrm tree? > (b) Convince the security folks to try to get their patches into the > mm- tree, for eventual inclusion into 2.6. > (c) Some combination of the two. > Either would probably be more likely to fulfill your needs than just > whining about it. Well, it's a bit worse than that, as the whining isn't really logically self-consistent. Getting a few of these people in touch with reality so they can actually move on to doing something productive looks like a prerequisite to any kind of action on their parts. But agreed on the principle of action being superior to complaining. -- wli - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/