Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262768AbUJ0XMm (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:12:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262748AbUJ0XIg (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:08:36 -0400 Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com ([195.54.107.73]:39075 "EHLO mxfep02.bredband.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262782AbUJ0XEb convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:04:31 -0400 To: Dave Dodge Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [uClibc] Re: [OT] Re: The naming wars continue... References: <20041026203137.GB10119@thundrix.ch> <417F2251.7010404@zytor.com> <200410271133.25701.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua> <20041027154828.GA21160@thundrix.ch> <20041027161402.GC21160@thundrix.ch> <20041027211138.GE24083@basmati> <20041027223546.GI24083@basmati> From: =?iso-8859-1?q?M=E5ns_Rullg=E5rd?= Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:04:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20041027223546.GI24083@basmati> (Dave Dodge's message of "Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:35:46 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1994 Lines: 47 Dave Dodge writes: > On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 11:15:15PM +0200, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: >> Dave Dodge writes: >> > If I recall correctly, in the GoboLinux case > [...] >> > I believe "/bin" is a symlink to the bin directory in the main >> > install prefix, but there are patches so that while "/bin" can be >> > used for lookups it does not appear when you list "/". >> >> If there's one thing I detest, it is such hiding of files. The GUI in >> MacOSX does such things too, even /tmp is hidden there. > > I believe Gobo only has paths such as "/bin" for legacy compatibility > (for example scripts starting with #!/bin/...). "/dev" is another > case, since that isn't where Gobo puts its devices, but lots of things > are going to assume they can use "/dev/zero" and "/dev/null". I don't quite see the point in breaking compatibility just for the sake of being different, or whatever their reasons may be. There is absolutely no technical justification for doing it that way. >> It's visible from a shell though. > > Gobo actually does it in the kernel; whether that's better or worse > depends on your point of view. There's a command-line tool "GoboHide" > that provides a list of hidden things: > > http://gobolinux.org/index.php?page=doc/articles/gobohide > > I think all of the things hidden in a normal GoboLinux desktop are > just legacy symlinks, and the real locations they point to are fully > visible. Unlike MacOS, where the Finder ignores a lot of real > directories and applications (I've been bitten there by "/tmp" > myself). On MacOSX you at least have the option to ignore the braindead GUI tools. Under the hood, it's largely POSIX compliant. -- M?ns Rullg?rd mru@mru.ath.cx - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/