Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262790AbUJ1FwU (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:52:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262792AbUJ1FwT (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:52:19 -0400 Received: from 168.imtp.Ilyichevsk.Odessa.UA ([195.66.192.168]:16396 "HELO port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S262790AbUJ1FvR (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:51:17 -0400 From: Denis Vlasenko To: gene.heskett@verizon.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Intel also needs convincing on firmware licensing. Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:50:50 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 Cc: Han Boetes References: <20041028022532.GX26130@boetes.org> <200410272346.12283.gene.heskett@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200410272346.12283.gene.heskett@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410280850.51033.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2012 Lines: 44 On Thursday 28 October 2004 06:46, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 27 October 2004 22:25, Han Boetes wrote: > >Hi, > > > >The people from the OpenBSD project are currently lobbying to get > > the firmware for Intel wireless chipsets under a license suitable > > for Open Source. > > > >Since this will not only benefit BSD but also the Linux Project (and > >even Intel) I would like to mention the URL here for people who want > > to help writing to Intel. > > > > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20041027193425 > > > Please be aware that for the so-called "software radios" > chips/chipsets, the FCC, and other similar regulating bodies in other > countries has made access to the data quite restrictive in an attempt > to keep the less ruly among us from putting them on frequencies they > aren't authorized to use, or to set the power levels above whats > allowed. These restrictions can vary from governing body to > governing body so the software is generally supplied according to > where the chipset is being shipped. The potential for mischief, and > legal/monetary reprecussions is sufficiently great that I have > serious doubts that Intel will budge from their current position > unless we can prove, beyond any doubt, that the regulatory > limitations imposed will not be violated. > > Since open source, where anyone who can read the code can see exactly > what the limits are, and 'adjust to suit', virtually guarantees > miss-use, sooner if not later, for no other reason than its human > nature to experiment, Intel/moto/etc therefore has very good reasons > to treat its chip<->software interface as highly secret & > proprietary. However, disassemblers do exist. Hiding secrets in binary .o files is silly. -- vda - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/