Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263630AbUJ2ViF (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:38:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263524AbUJ2Vct (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:32:49 -0400 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:38153 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S263615AbUJ2VbP (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:31:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:30:43 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Hacksaw Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: My thoughts on the "new development model" Message-ID: <20041029213043.GU6677@stusta.de> References: <200410280728.i9S7SIYW017628@hacksaw.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200410280728.i9S7SIYW017628@hacksaw.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1437 Lines: 37 On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 03:28:18AM -0400, Hacksaw wrote: > > That's NOT the same as bug free software. For a start, there's no such > > thing. > > Speaking of which, here's something I have wondered: is anyone out there > trying to prove the correctness of core functions in the kernel? I was > thinking this would be a fine activity for all those eager college students > out there, or perhaps a graduate student project, a la the Stanford Checker > project. > > While I can't imagine the main developers doing such a thing, I think it'd be > useful and might uncover some hard to find bugs. > > I'd also suspect that they might be good candidates for proving, as there's > not so much reason to have side effect riddled code, as one might for GUI > programs. Did you ever try to prove the correctness of some piece of code in an imperative programming language? That's definitely not only "a graduate student project". cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/