Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261753AbUJ1T1k (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:27:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261858AbUJ1T1k (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:27:40 -0400 Received: from mail1.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.168]:6148 "EHLO mail1.webmaster.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261753AbUJ1TZi (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:25:38 -0400 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Xavier Bestel" Cc: "Linux Kernel" Subject: RE: BK kernel workflow Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:25:32 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <20041028151004.GA3934@work.bitmover.com> X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:02:07 -0700 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:02:10 -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Since you haven't paid for the product, copyright law applies and > that's quite different than contract law. You get a certain set > of rights, which vary worldwide, when you buy something. Copyright > is far more restrictive. > > "Fair use" != "reverse engineering" in any venue so far as I know. > > As always, IANAL, so contact yours for clarification. As I understand the law, at least in the United States, you have the exact same rights whether you buy the product or get it for free, so long as you acquire it legally. This includes the right to use the product as it is normally used. Otherwise, I could write a poem, put it up on billboards, and then try to sue everyone whose eyes passed over it. This is legally enshrined in the doctrine of "first sale", which despite its name applies to any legal acquisition. It's not clear whether shrink wrap or other licenses can reduce this basic right to use that which one lawfully acquires. Some have pointed to various cases (such as ProCD v. Zeidenberg), but all the cases I have seen have differed from the shrinkwrap/copyright issue in at least one key respect. DS - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/