Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261849AbUKCUAv (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:00:51 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261851AbUKCT55 (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:57:57 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:35724 "EHLO main.gmane.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261833AbUKCT46 (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:56:58 -0500 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: =?iso-8859-1?q?M=E5ns_Rullg=E5rd?= Subject: Re: is killing zombies possible w/o a reboot? Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:56:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: <200411030751.39578.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <20041103143348.GA24596@outpost.ds9a.nl> <200411031124.19179.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.80-202-166.nextgentel.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3DDfO2zuPaAdOeThWNafp8tsils= Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1288 Lines: 26 linux-os writes: > The fix is to fix the code. Your temporary fix is to use > Ctrl-Alt-backspace to kill the X11 server (the parent). The X server is not the parent. The desktop manager (or whatever those beasts are called) is more likely to be. > All these little windows and icons are the 'children' of the X > server. The X server manages a set of windows, arranged in a logical tree structure, with all windows ultimately descending from the root windows. The parent-child relationships between windows should under no circumstance be confused, or compared, with that between processes. Any process, on any machine on the network, can, given enough privileges, create subwindows of any window on the X server. Windows and process belong to different worlds, the only connection between which is that processes create windows, simply since anything that happens in the computer is done by a process (or interrupt handler). Am I really reading this on linux-kernel? -- M?ns Rullg?rd mru@inprovide.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/