Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262025AbUKDAo4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:44:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262022AbUKDAlp (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:41:45 -0500 Received: from dsl017-059-236.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net ([69.17.59.236]:33984 "EHLO marta.kurtwerks.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261953AbUKDAgs (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:36:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:43:42 -0500 From: Kurt Wall To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: is killing zombies possible w/o a reboot? Message-ID: <20041104004342.GD5283@kurtwerks.com> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200411030751.39578.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <200411031124.19179.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <20041103201322.GA10816@hh.idb.hist.no> <200411031540.03598.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200411031540.03598.gene.heskett@verizon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.9 X-Woot: Woot! Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 982 Lines: 23 On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 03:40:03PM -0500, Gene Heskett took 89 lines to write: > On Wednesday 03 November 2004 15:13, Helge Hafting wrote: > > > >Yes it does - the problem is that not all resources are managed > >by processes. Some allocations are managed by drivers, so a driver > >bug can get the device into a unuseable state _and_ tie up the > >process(es) that were using the driver at the moment. > > This from my viewpoint, is wrong. The kernel, and only the kernel > should be ultimately responsible for handing out resources, and > reclaiming at its convienience. This might just be semantics, but device drivers are part of the kernel. Kurt -- In 1750 Issac Newton became discouraged when he fell up a flight of stairs. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/