Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:39:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:39:05 -0400 Received: from [203.36.158.121] ([203.36.158.121]:29959 "EHLO piro.kabuki.openfridge.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:38:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 23:38:01 +1000 From: Daniel Stone To: imel96@trustix.co.id Cc: Daniel Stone , Alexander Viro , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Single user linux Message-ID: <20010424233801.A6067@piro.kabuki.openfridge.net> Mail-Followup-To: imel96@trustix.co.id, Daniel Stone , Alexander Viro , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20010424225841.D5803@piro.kabuki.openfridge.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: ; from imel96@trustix.co.id on Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:27:56PM +0700 Organisation: Sadly lacking Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:27:56PM +0700, imel96@trustix.co.id wrote: > On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Daniel Stone wrote: > > Hence, Microsoft Windows. It might not be stable, it might not be fast, it > > might not do RAID, packet-filtering and SQL, but it does a job. A simple > > job. To give Mum & Dad(tm) (with apologies to maddog) a chance to use a > > computer. > > > > > > Since when, did mobile phones == computers? > > read the news! i'm programming nokia 9210 with c++, is that > computer enough? Aah. I see. Where was this? I never saw it. > i bet if you programmed one, you'd wish you have posix > interface. That may be so, so hack up your own OS. It's a MOBILE PHONE, it needs to be absolutely *rock solid*. Look at the 5110, that's just about perfect. The 7110, on the other hand ... > > > that also explain why win95 user doesn't want to use NT. not > > > because they can't afford it (belive me, here NT costs only > > > us$2), but additional headache isn't acceptable. > > > > So, let them stay in Win95. They don't *need* NT. > > and how's stability, speed, etc. they read. is there a linux > advocate around here? There are Linux advocates, but I'd say most of us are sane enough to use the right-tool-for-the-job approach. And UNIX on a phone is pure overkill. > > If your sister doesn't want that, give your sister a copy of Win95. If she > > doesn't want that, she obviously wouldn't get any advantage out of Linux, as > > opposed to Win95, whatsoever. Would she get a kick out of having to learn an > > entirely new environment? Granted, I'm far more productive in GNOME, > > Sawfish, emacs and mutt than Win95, Word and Outlook, but it takes people > > time to get used to, and you'll have trouble dragging them out of > > point-n-click. > > okay, it wouldn't cost me. but it surely easier if everybody used > linux, so i could put my ext2 disk everywhere i want. > > hey, it's obvious that it's not for a server! > i try to point out a problem for people not on this list, don't > work around that problem. Your sister won't notice much advantage. Linux on a workstation actually has *disadvantages* (unfamiliar interface, unintuitive same, etc), as opposed to 'Doze on a workstation. Sure it's more stable, and the tiniest bit faster, but what's that really matter to your sister, if she can't even figure out how to use it? -d, who owns a 7110 and can lock it solid, or get it to do funny resetting tricks, at least once every 2 days -- Daniel Stone Linux Kernel Developer daniel@kabuki.openfridge.net - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/