Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261849AbUKJEQK (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Nov 2004 23:16:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261873AbUKJEQK (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Nov 2004 23:16:10 -0500 Received: from smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com ([66.163.168.180]:24482 "HELO smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261849AbUKJEQC (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Nov 2004 23:16:02 -0500 From: Dmitry Torokhov To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ACPI] Re: 2.6.10-rc1-mm3: ACPI problem due to un-exported hotplug_path Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 23:15:55 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 Cc: Greg KH , Keshavamurthy Anil S , Kay Sievers , tokunaga.keiich@jp.fujitsu.com, motoyuki@soft.fujitsu.com, Adrian Bunk , Andrew Morton , rml@novell.com, len.brown@intel.com, acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net References: <20041105001328.3ba97e08.akpm@osdl.org> <20041110000811.GA8543@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20041110000811.GA8543@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411092315.55187.dtor_core@ameritech.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1661 Lines: 37 On Tuesday 09 November 2004 07:08 pm, Greg KH wrote: > On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 06:48:17PM -0500, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:55:02 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 09:18:48PM -0800, Keshavamurthy Anil S wrote: > > > > Also, since you have brought this, I have one another question to you. > > > > Now in the new kernel, I see whenever anybody calls sysdev_register(kobj), > > > > an "ADD" notification is sent. why is this? I would like to call > > > > kobject_hotplug(kobj, ADD) later. > > > > > > This happens when kobject_add() is called. You shouldn't ever need to > > > call kobject_hotplug() for an add event yourself. > > > > > > > This is not always the case. One might want to postpone ADD event > > until all summpelental object attributes are created. This way userspace > > is presented with object in consistent state. > > No, that's a mess. Let userspace wait for those attributes to show up > if they need to. That's what the "wait_for_sysfs" program bundled with > udev is for. > I strongly disagree: - it makes userspace being aware of implementation details (whe exactly it has to wait for, for how long, etc.) which is bad thing; - not all the world is udev - needless replication of the code and bugs; - not only making visible but announcing an object in non-working state to userspace simply does not feel right. -- Dmitry - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/