Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262396AbUKVVaX (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:30:23 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262342AbUKVTFy (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:05:54 -0500 Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com ([32.97.110.133]:51417 "EHLO e35.co.us.ibm.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262317AbUKVTEm (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:04:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:40:51 -0800 From: Greg KH To: "Gerold J. Wucherpfennig" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Kernel thoughts of a Linux user Message-ID: <20041122184051.GA6060@kroah.com> References: <200411201131.12987.gjwucherpfennig@gmx.net> <20041121182952.GA26874@kroah.com> <200411222233.45709.gjwucherpfennig@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200411222233.45709.gjwucherpfennig@gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1267 Lines: 30 On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 10:33:45PM +0100, Gerold J. Wucherpfennig wrote: > > I'm a stupid idiot, but I'm sure that the sysfs and hal thing still has to > mature for a few years. "mature for a few years" before what happens? It becomes a fine vintage, and everyone enjoys it? Or it becomes a stinking pile of decaying matter? I don't understand what you are getting at here. > Just imagine such things like listing all available modem devices. > Listing /sys/class/tty/*/dev without the virtual consoles just isn't > enough. You can not determine "modem devices" by just listing tty devices. tty devices are tty devices, some of them can be acting like a modem (like a ACM device) and others can just be a serial port connected to a modem. If you have issues with how HAL works, talk to the developers of it. It's a relativly new project, and they can use the help. But please realize that sysfs doesn't exist for the sole reason of HAL. HAL was created because sysfs enabled it to be created. thanks, greg k-h - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/