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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:47:11 -0800
From: "Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC] Splitting kernel headers and deprecating __KERNEL__
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Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 05:29:42AM +0100, Tonnerre wrote:
> 
>>Fnord alert: you're trying to change the API and the ABI of Linux. The thing
> 
> 
> No we aren't.  We're just trying to make the kernel interface more
> explicit.  Nothing should change as far as userspace programs are
> concerned.  It might need some coordination with the various libcs.

Speaking of more explicit, there are various asm-ARCH header
files that do or do not hide (via __KERNEL__) interfaces
such as:	get_unaligned()
and the atomic operations.

So are these Linux kernel exported APIs, or do they belong
in some library?

We'll need to decide on a consistent remedy for these,
and such changes could be made at any time IMO (i.e., soon).


> And enough with the doom-and-gloom big-companies-are-scared approach, OK?
> It's (a) untrue, (b) irrelevant, and (c) many of us work for big companies
> that are doing Linux already.  We don't need to be lectured by you.

-- 
~Randy
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