Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261585AbUK3HRD (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:17:03 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261985AbUK3HRC (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:17:02 -0500 Received: from quechua.inka.de ([193.197.184.2]:37606 "EHLO mail.inka.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261585AbUK3HQ5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:16:57 -0500 From: Bernd Eckenfels To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Designing Another File System Organization: Deban GNU/Linux Homesite In-Reply-To: <41ABF7C5.5070609@comcast.net> X-Newsgroups: ka.lists.linux.kernel User-Agent: tin/1.7.6-20040906 ("Baleshare") (UNIX) (Linux/2.6.8.1 (i686)) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:16:53 +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2887 Lines: 75 In article <41ABF7C5.5070609@comcast.net> you wrote: > when done; however, whatever the result, I'd assuredly give a free > license to implement the resulting file system in GPL2 licensed code (if > you're not making money off it, I'm not making money off it). You can't restrict the GPL. > I've examined briefly the overall concepts which go into several file > systems and pooled them together to create my basic requirements. In > these include things such as: It is not a good idea to publish your ideas if you want to patent them. > - - localization of Inodes and related meta-data to prevent disk thrashing Why do you asume inodes? > - - 64 bit indices indicating the exact physical location on disk of > Inodes, giving a O(1) seek to the Inode itself How is that different from Logical Block Numbers with a fixed cluster factor? (besides it wastes more bits) > - - A design based around preventing information leaking by guaranteed > secure erasure of data (insofar that the journal even will finish wiping > out data when replaying a transaction) Hopefully optional. > 2) Are there any other security concerns aside from information leaking > (deleted data being left over on disk, which may pop up in incompletely > written files)? IT-Security is about availability and reliability also. > 3) What basic information do I absolutely *need* in my super block? How should WE know? (For mount you might want to have versioning and uuids) > 5) What basic information do I absolutely *need* in my directory > entries? (I'm thinking {name,inode}) Think about optimizations like NTFS, where you can sort directories by attributes and store often used attribtes in the dir, so you dont need a inode dereference (MFT lookup in case of ntfs) > Directories will have to be some sort of on disk BsomethingTree. . . B*, > B+, something. I have no idea how to implement this :D I'll assume I > treat the directory data as a logically contiguous file (yes I'm gonna > store directory data just like file data). I could use a string hash of > the Directory Entry name with disambiguation at the end, except my > options here seem limited: Dont forget to optimize directories for all 4: insertion/deletion/lookup and traversal. > I guess the second would be better? I can't locate any directories on > my drive with >2000 entries *shrug*. The end key is just the entry > {name,inode} pair. Do you want to run old style NNTP Servers? > Any ideas? In fact I miss a bit a new idea, so what makes your FS better, why should anyone use a non-open source implementation if it does not provide anything new? Greetings Bernd - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/