Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:23:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:23:42 -0400 Received: from 13dyn184.delft.casema.net ([212.64.76.184]:56846 "EHLO abraracourcix.bitwizard.nl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:23:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200104282123.XAA05735@cave.bitwizard.nl> Subject: Re: 2.4 and 2GB swap partition limit In-Reply-To: <200104281804.f3SI4ar368494@saturn.cs.uml.edu> from "Albert D. Cahalan" at "Apr 28, 2001 02:04:35 pm" To: "Albert D. Cahalan" Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:23:15 +0200 (MEST) CC: Rogier Wolff , Wakko Warner , Xavier Bestel , Goswin Brederlow , William T Wilson , Matt_Domsch@Dell.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl (Rogier Wolff) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > So that is a factor of 50 in price. It's what, a factor of 1000000 > in access time? Actually it's only about 100000. > > That disk space is just sitting there. Never to be used. I spent $400 > > on the RAM, and I'm now reserving about $8 worth of disk space for > > swap. I think that the $8 is well worth it. It keeps my machine > > functional a while longer should something go haywire... As I said: > > If you don't want to see it that way: Fine with me. > > It is a disaster waiting to happen. Instead of having the offending > process get killed, your machine could suffer extreme thrashing. > > Have enough swap for idle processes and no more. Right. Now there is some time where "extreme thrashing" will alert ME (a human, I think) to try and find/kill the offending process. Otherwise I have to trust Rik's OOM killer. Now his OOM killer isn't all that bad. But it isn't human. Humans are better at actually finding the real CAUSE. An OOM killer might hit one or two innocent processes along the way. So far I've killed the right process ALL the time. I can't say the same for the OOM killer. Roger. -- ** R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl ** http://www.BitWizard.nl/ ** +31-15-2137555 ** *-- BitWizard writes Linux device drivers for any device you may have! --* * There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots. * There are also old, bald pilots. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/