Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262577AbVAEUGm (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:06:42 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262580AbVAEUGm (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:06:42 -0500 Received: from zeus.kernel.org ([204.152.189.113]:10426 "EHLO zeus.kernel.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262577AbVAEUGf (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:06:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:05:26 -0500 To: prism54-devel@prism54.org, prism54-users@prism54.org Cc: Netdev , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik , Jean Tourrilhes , mcgrof@studorgs.rutgers.edu Subject: Open hardware wireless cards Message-ID: <20050105200526.GL5159@ruslug.rutgers.edu> Mail-Followup-To: prism54-devel@prism54.org, prism54-users@prism54.org, Netdev , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik , Jean Tourrilhes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FN+gV9K+162wdwwF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050105192447.GJ5159@ruslug.rutgers.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Operating-System: 2.4.18-1-686 Organization: Rutgers University Student Linux Users Group From: mcgrof@studorgs.rutgers.edu (Luis R. Rodriguez) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2230 Lines: 62 --FN+gV9K+162wdwwF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 02:24:47PM -0500, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: <-- snip --> > As far as support for the new chipsets goes -- sorry -- we won't be able > to support it as I don't think even Conexant has a final well tested > linux source base ready for 2.6. And even if we are given a source base > there is nothing we can do to get around the need for the closed-source= =20 > softmac libs that it relies on. As much as I'd like to support it, I > don't want to get a headache to support something I cannot modify so I > won't be willing to support a half-opened driver as the atheros driver. I'd also like to add... For those of you frustrated about our current wireless driver situation in open platforms -- I think we probably will have this trouble with most modern hardware for a = while (graphics cards, wireless driver, etc). A lot of has to do with patent infringement issues, "intellectual property" protection, and other business-oriented excuses. What I think we probably will have to do is just work torwards seeing if we can come up with our own open wireless hardware. I know there was a recent thread on lkml about an open video card -- anyone know where that ended up? If we can't come up with our own project to work on open hardware we can also just see if its feasible to purchase hardware companies on the verge of going backrupt and buy them out and release the specs/etc (a la blender). Can someone do the math here? I'm lazy. Luis --=20 GnuPG Key fingerprint =3D 113F B290 C6D2 0251 4D84 A34A 6ADD 4937 E20A 525E --FN+gV9K+162wdwwF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB3EiGat1JN+IKUl4RAt6mAJ9gbrBRF/ua2WuCBHLQcrpy012SxQCgjAlq HLlowOyG5hYmToywmmfBsNA= =g6/K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FN+gV9K+162wdwwF-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/