Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:56:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:56:10 -0400 Received: from [63.95.87.168] ([63.95.87.168]:46343 "HELO xi.linuxpower.cx") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:55:59 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:55:53 -0400 From: Gregory Maxwell To: Richard Gooch Cc: Ingo Oeser , "David S. Miller" , Jeff Garzik , "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd) Message-ID: <20010429145552.A17155@xi.linuxpower.cx> In-Reply-To: <20010428215301.A1052@gruyere.muc.suse.de> <200104282256.f3SMuRW15999@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <9cg7t7$gbt$1@cesium.transmeta.com> <3AEBF782.1911EDD2@mandrakesoft.com> <15083.64180.314190.500961@pizda.ninka.net> <20010429153229.L679@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> <200104291848.f3TIm6821037@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.8i In-Reply-To: <200104291848.f3TIm6821037@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>; from rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca on Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 12:48:06PM -0600 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 12:48:06PM -0600, Richard Gooch wrote: > Ingo Oeser writes: > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 04:27:48AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote: > > > The idea is that the one thing one tends to optimize for new cpus > > > is the memcpy/memset implementation. What better way to shield > > > libc from having to be updated for new cpus but to put it into > > > the kernel in this magic page? > > > > Hehe, you have read this MXT patch on linux-mm, too? ;-) > > > > There we have 10x faster memmove/memcpy/bzero for 1K blocks > > granularity (== alignment is 1K and size is multiple of 1K), that > > is done by the memory controller. > > This sounds different to me. Using the memory controller is (should > be!) a privileged operation, thus it requires a system call. This is > quite different from code in a magic page, which is excuted entirely > in user-space. The point of the magic page is to avoid the syscall > overhead. Too bad this is a performance hack, otherwise we could place the privlaged code in the read-only page, allow it to get execute from user space, catch the exception, notice the EIP and let it continue on. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/