Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262706AbVAJVuw (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:50:52 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262694AbVAJVd4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:33:56 -0500 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([212.18.232.186]:272 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262672AbVAJV3l (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:29:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:29:33 +0000 From: Russell King To: Pierre Ossman Cc: Alan Cox , Adrian Bunk , Linux Kernel Mailing List , stephen_pollei@comcast.net Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] remove SPF-using wbsd lists from MAINTAINERS Message-ID: <20050110212932.D10365@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Pierre Ossman , Alan Cox , Adrian Bunk , Linux Kernel Mailing List , stephen_pollei@comcast.net References: <20050110184307.GB2903@stusta.de> <1105382033.12054.90.camel@localhost.localdomain> <41E2F1BD.1020407@drzeus.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <41E2F1BD.1020407@drzeus.cx>; from drzeus-list@drzeus.cx on Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 10:21:01PM +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2181 Lines: 49 On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 10:21:01PM +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > > On Llu, 2005-01-10 at 18:43, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > >>IMHO lists rejecting emails based on some non-standard extension don't > >>belong into MAINTAINERS. > > > > > > Find out why someone is publishing records saying your mail isnt valid > > instead of moaning here. If they are using SPF and you are not using any > > strange extensions its fine. You or your provider appears to be > > advertising that stusta.de doesn't use the mail relay you are using. > > > > I think I've fixed the problem now. It wasn't that there were published > records for stusta.de, the problem was that the mail server couldn't > resolve your domain. For some reason everything from the DNS I'm using > to your DNS gets dropped. The mail server takes the paranoid route and > assumes the worst when it cannot contact dns servers (that's why you got > a 4xx, not a 5xx). I've now changed DNS which will hopefully solve the > issue. > > As for dropping the mailing list out of MAINTAINERS then I'd prefer you > didn't (of course). But I will not remove the filters on the servers > since they remove a lot of spam. If that means it cannot be in > MAINTAINERS, then so be it. You may wish to check the source port which your DNS servers are using to perform lookups. I've had a situation recently where someone was unable to send me mail. Upon investigation, I found that my name servers couldn't resolve his domain, but plain 'dig' on the same box could. I've come across ISPs who think they should block DNS requests from certain _source_ ports to "improve" their security, which may explain what you're seeing. If this is the case, I suggest Adrian finds a better ISP. -- Russell King Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ maintainer of: 2.6 PCMCIA - http://pcmcia.arm.linux.org.uk/ 2.6 Serial core - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/