Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 03:11:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 03:11:46 -0400 Received: from panic.ohr.gatech.edu ([130.207.47.194]:38352 "HELO havoc.gtf.org") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 03:11:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3AED101F.8DB882AF@mandrakesoft.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 03:11:27 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik Organization: MandrakeSoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.4 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: esr@thyrsus.com Cc: David Emory Watson , Alexander Viro , aia21@cam.ac.uk, stoffel@casc.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [OT] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..." In-Reply-To: <988611138.21363.1.camel@shade> <20010430025335.A5189@thyrsus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Actually, Al is sort of half-right here. There used to be a 4-lines-or-less > convention on USENET, back in the days when bandwidth was expensive. I > adhered to it then, because it mattered. > > Nowadays it doesn't -- at least not at that level. Huge sigs with > embedded ASCII graphics and the like are still best avoided, but merely > because they're tasteless and distracting. > > I don't think I've heard anyone invoke the 4-line rule since about > 1992, though. I didn't start generating short random quotes into my sig > until about 1996, well after the "standard" was effectively dead. The 4-line rule is still being invoked all the time, and written into college netiquette guides for students, things like that. The standard has never been "effectively dead" except in the sense that it always has been: clueless AOLers ignore it, clueful netiquette followers follow it. Read item #15: http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/gnksa.txt > Despite the demise of the 4-line standard, I have a pretty definite > impression that the average size of sigs actually dropped in the 1990s. > The main thing that formerly inflated a lot of them was the need to > list multiple bang-path addresses and other forms of contact info. > Reliable @-addressing pretty much eliminated that pressure. > > Even back in its day this "rule" was frequently abused as a socially > acceptable way to attack people whose opinions or style one disliked. frequently abused, yes. socially acceptable? doubtful. -- Jeff Garzik | Game called on account of naked chick Building 1024 | MandrakeSoft | - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/