Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262939AbVAKWxY (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:53:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262930AbVAKWuE (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:50:04 -0500 Received: from out014pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.46]:54250 "EHLO out014.verizon.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262876AbVAKWqX (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:46:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200501112245.j0BMjUTn006904@localhost.localdomain> To: Matt Mackall cc: "Jack O'Quin" , Chris Wright , Christoph Hellwig , Andrew Morton , Lee Revell , arjanv@redhat.com, mingo@elte.hu, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] [request for inclusion] Realtime LSM In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:50:10 PST." <20050111195010.GU2940@waste.org> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:45:30 -0500 From: Paul Davis X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out014.verizon.net from [151.197.39.54] at Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:46:16 -0600 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1415 Lines: 32 >Thankfully a buffer underrun is no more fatal for pro audio than a >broken guitar string. CDs skip, DATs glitch, XLR cables flake out, >circuit breakers trip, amps clip, Powerbooks crash, and the show goes >on. I've done more than enough stage tech to know it's a huge pain in >the ass, but let's stop pretending we require absolute perfection, >please. Are you really serious? Nobody said anything about absolute perfection. We've got 2 kernels (2.4+lowlat, and 2.6 +realtime_preempt) whose performance *far* exceeds that of any vanilla kernel, and in the latter case, probably any other desktop OS. We've even got a kernel (2.6.9 or maybe .10) whose performance is getting closer to par with OSX. We want people to be able to access this performance relatively hassle free. Right now, people who want this have to jump through a lot of hoops to access something they can, and should, be able to do quite easily. *That* is what this is all about, nothing more. From the looks of things, the performance of vanilla 2.6 in this area is going to continue to improve, but users' ability to actually use it will remain in the same primitive condition its in now. --p - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/