Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261911AbVANDlb (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:41:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261908AbVANDjX (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:39:23 -0500 Received: from out012pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.137]:35008 "EHLO out012.verizon.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261885AbVANDem (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:34:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200501140334.j0E3YPMv027069@localhost.localdomain> To: Nick Piggin cc: Con Kolivas , Andrew Morton , lkml@s2y4n2c.de, rlrevell@joe-job.com, arjanv@redhat.com, joq@io.com, chrisw@osdl.org, mpm@selenic.com, hch@infradead.org, mingo@elte.hu, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] [request for inclusion] Realtime LSM In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:31:21 +1100." <1105673482.5402.58.camel@npiggin-nld.site> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:34:25 -0500 From: Paul Davis X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [141.152.253.251] at Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:34:41 -0600 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1026 Lines: 21 >I wouldn't have thought it is so much a matter of having real-time-ish >scheduling available that tries to play nicely in a multi user machine. >That must still imply that either the user is able to unduly tie up >resources (and thus it has to be a privileged operation), or that it >sometimes can't meet its "guarantees" (in which case, is it useful?). most audio hackers and users are perfectly comfortable with the OSX compromise - tasks with no special privilege get deterministic access to the CPU as long as they do not consume excessive cycles. this begs the question about what happens when the entire class of SCHED_ISO (to use Con's working name for such a scheduling class) tasks is eating too much CPU, rather than any one of them, but i'll leave that to Con :) --p - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/