Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261936AbVANKWz (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:22:55 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261937AbVANKWz (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:22:55 -0500 Received: from levante.wiggy.net ([195.85.225.139]:1175 "EHLO mx1.wiggy.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261936AbVANKWy (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:22:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:22:49 +0100 From: Wichert Akkerman To: Marek Habersack Cc: Alan Cox , Marcelo Tosatti , Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , Chris Wright , akpm@osdl.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: thoughts on kernel security issues Message-ID: <20050114102249.GA3539@wiggy.net> Mail-Followup-To: Marek Habersack , Alan Cox , Marcelo Tosatti , Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , Chris Wright , akpm@osdl.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <20050112185133.GA10687@kroah.com> <20050112161227.GF32024@logos.cnet> <20050112174203.GA691@logos.cnet> <1105627541.4624.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050113194246.GC24970@beowulf.thanes.org> <1105643984.5193.95.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050113204415.GF24970@beowulf.thanes.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050113204415.GF24970@beowulf.thanes.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 978 Lines: 21 Previously Marek Habersack wrote: > So it sounds that we, the men-in-the-crowd are really left out in the crowd, > people who are affected the most by the issues. Since the vendors are not > affected by the bugs (playing a devil's advocate here), since they fix them > for their machines as they appear, way before they get public. vendor suffer from that as well. Suppose vendors learn of a problem in a product they visibly use such as apache or rsync. If all vendors suddenly update their versions or disable things that will be noticed as well, so vendors can't do that. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/