Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:57:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:57:49 -0400 Received: from SSH.ChaoticDreams.ORG ([64.162.95.164]:20381 "EHLO ssh.chaoticdreams.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:57:41 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 16:57:34 -0700 From: Paul Mundt To: Marius Nita Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU! Message-ID: <20010701165734.A13184@ChaoticDreams.ORG> In-Reply-To: <3B3F5F5C.40907@lycosmail.com> <20010701130151.A10989@ChaoticDreams.ORG> <20010701153250.A7939@pdx.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.13i In-Reply-To: <20010701153250.A7939@pdx.edu>; from marius@pdx.edu on Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 03:32:51PM -0700 Organization: Chaotic Dreams Development Team Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 03:32:51PM -0700, Marius Nita wrote: > _I_ think it's childish to claim the above. You _may_ have a choice, yes, but > is that choice equal or fair? Microsoft has infected both the user area as > much as the business/work area. If you want to purchase a PC because your > computer just fried and you want to finish a paper or something, but you > _want_ to use KOffice on Linux, and you don't care for Windows/Word > whatsoever, what are the chances that if you run down to the computer store > your "choices" will be Windows/Word, _period_! You'll then have to make sure > that none of the hardware in it is Software driven-like winmodems-and that > it's supported by Linux (or whatever OS you prefer). Almost all computers out > there (from well-known compianies) ship with winmodems. How is that a choice? > You have a choice to waste $70 on a harware modem, when someone who uses > Windows doesn't? > You have lots of choices. You're simply opting to take the quick and easy way out. Your complaint about workstations is unjustified, if you insist on buying pre-built workstations, there are many companies that you can buy linux workstations from (strange, I thought VA did something like that for awhile until they backed out of the hardware business, guess I was mistaken though, as there aren't any options). As for modems, this isn't anything but an excuse either. Broadband is very much commonplace these days.. being force into dialup is less and less of a problem these days. However, paying 70$ for a peice of trash hardware modem is no one's fault but your own, and your inability to look around. On top of that, your entire argument is broken. If you fry your machine, you have a pretty good chance of being able to just repair it instead of having to replace it with an entire new machine. Or if you can't, there's always the ever so difficult scenario of removing the damned modem from the machine and moving it over to a different one (provided you had a software modem in the alleged new one). > Then, when it comes to work, what are you choices there? You choose not to > Work for one of the Windows-based companies out there, and spend more time > looking for a different job, but at the same time you choose not to pay your > rent, feed your kids, etc. All I'm asking for is a _fair_ choice! Even if > one's lucky enough to get their preffered non-MS job, they will have to work > for some MS company while they scout around for it. So yes, we have a choice, > but going the MS way is the muuuuch easier route. And this is all owed to the > fact that MS is driving special campaigns instilling fear in the hearts of > non-MS companies, offering "great deals on software packages", "solving your > problems the right way", making you feel that if you don't go MS you're > screwed, etc. You never see SUN, do that, do you? > In that case, you've made your choice, which is to work for a MS using company. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use MS products, you do so of your own free will. Coming up with excuses to try and justify using something you allege to hate so much is just pathetic. Also, say for some reason you are "forced" into working temporarily for such a company to pay the bills.. nothing is stopping you from looking for alternate means of employment. Seems to me you just want the quick and easy way out, and refuse to admit the possibility that there are other options. Just because you haven't taken the time to look at them, doesn't mean they don't exist. Regards, -- Paul Mundt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/