Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 1 Jul 2001 20:11:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 1 Jul 2001 20:11:30 -0400 Received: from SSH.ChaoticDreams.ORG ([64.162.95.164]:28317 "EHLO ssh.chaoticdreams.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 1 Jul 2001 20:11:19 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 17:11:01 -0700 From: Paul Mundt To: Ben Ford Cc: Adam Schrotenboer , LKML Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU! Message-ID: <20010701171101.A13223@ChaoticDreams.ORG> In-Reply-To: <3B3F5F5C.40907@lycosmail.com> <20010701130151.A10989@ChaoticDreams.ORG> <3B3FB754.8040305@kalifornia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.13i In-Reply-To: <3B3FB754.8040305@kalifornia.com>; from ben@kalifornia.com on Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 04:50:44PM -0700 Organization: Chaotic Dreams Development Team Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 04:50:44PM -0700, Ben Ford wrote: > Name a single tech company anywhere in the world that doesn't have to > deal with microsoftisms. > This depends on your definition of dealing with MSisms. If you mean having a copy of an MS product physically present at a business location, that's pretty much unavoidable. If you mean working at a place where you yourself don't have to deal with it, it all depends what line of work you're in. If you're some form of management person, you might choose to work with Word because everyone else does, but that goes back to it being your decision. I can think of a lot of companies, such as WindRiver, QSSL, etc. where there may be some level of involvement, but not everyone working in the company is forced into things. > It makes perfect sense to me. Take my family as an example. My wife > used Windows because she didn't know anything else existed. She crashed > and rebooted quite frequently and never knew there was an alternative. > Then she met me and was rather astounded that I hadn't rebooted my > machine in months. Now she hates Microsoft because she realizes what > bullshit she went through. > What a petty thing to hate a corporation over. If you're using a company's product of your own free will, any issues that might arise out of using the product is something you accepted when you purchased the product. Not knowing ones options is also not the fault of MS. If you don't do your research before getting into something, and you get screwed as a result, it's your own fault for not looking into things before making a decision. > Well, when you realize that Bill Gates (not MS, just Bill Gates > personally) has enough money to give every person in the world $10 out > of his pocket, then you see this argument in a different light. > What does that have to do with anything? Someone makes some many, and they're suddenly the cause of world hunger because they could donate all their money but don't? This is also a moronic statement, as I seem to recall Gates starting up a foundation for such things, and donating money to charity. While I may not like alot of the things that MS does, or care for how Gates does business, I'm still not going to try and blame the worlds problems on him simply because he does some things I don't like. Regards, -- Paul Mundt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/