Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Jul 2001 11:10:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 2 Jul 2001 11:10:30 -0400 Received: from tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil ([204.222.179.33]:24680 "EHLO tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Jul 2001 11:10:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 10:09:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Jesse Pollard Message-Id: <200107021509.KAA52993@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> To: jroland@roland.net, , , "J Sloan" Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU! Cc: X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.2b] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org "Jim Roland" : > From: "Jesse Pollard" > To: ; "Kurt Maxwell Weber" ; "J Sloan" > > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 3:03 PM > Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU! > > > [snip] > > >In that case, I have the following options: > > >1) Start my own ISP > > > > Only if the upstream provider doesn't require you to use windows. > > > > >2) Use Windows XP > > >3) Not use Windows XP and not be able to use my current ISP > > >4) Go to a different ISP > > > > You may not be able to find another. It took me a year. I gave up. I was > > fortunate that Verio doesn't care what you have... though if you use > > the dialup or basic dsl, MS is it, or no real support. > > > > >I'll just have to decide which I value more. As long as I won't be > killed > > >for using a different OS, I still have a choice. > > > > No, but you might be forced out of a job. > > In one of the large metro areas in which I live, there are a LOT of ISPs > that do not require you to use Windows, but will not support you beyond the > IP layer if you don't. Use linux, install PPP with MS-CHAPv2 (with or > without MPPE) for your dialup connection and it works just fine on a > Winblows-only ISP. DSL or Cable, just acquire your actual IP settings > program a Linksys router/hub box and be done with it. Better re-read the fine print on the "fair-use" statement. BOTH DSL and Cable, or dialup (New Orleans at least) will disconnect you if you run ANY unattended operation (if they determine it IS unattended). No daemon services. No routing/NAT (unless they do it). No remote login. No mail. DHCP reconfig between 4 and 8 hours (or whenever they choose to). They will let you plug in, but will not provide any support (even TCP/IP is not assured). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jesse I Pollard, II Email: pollard@navo.hpc.mil Any opinions expressed are solely my own. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/