Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261985AbVAYPxb (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:53:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261989AbVAYPxb (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:53:31 -0500 Received: from fw.osdl.org ([65.172.181.6]:49363 "EHLO mail.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261985AbVAYPxY (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:53:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:52:39 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds To: Bill Davidsen cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, John Richard Moser , Arjan van de Ven , Ingo Molnar , Christoph Hellwig , Dave Jones , Andrew Morton , marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com, Greg KH , chrisw@osdl.org, Alan Cox , Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: thoughts on kernel security issues In-Reply-To: <41F6604B.4090905@tmr.com> Message-ID: References: <1106157152.6310.171.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <200501191947.j0JJlf3j024206@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <41F6604B.4090905@tmr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1504 Lines: 38 On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > Unfortunately if A depends on B to work at all, you have to put A and B > in as a package. No. That's totally bogus. You can put in B on its own. You do not have to make A+B be one patch. > There is no really good way (AFAIK) to submit a bunch of patches and > say "if any one of these is rejected the whole thing should be ignored." But that's done ALL THE TIME. Claiming that there is no good way is not only disingenious (we call them "numbers", and they start at 1, go to 2, then 3. Then there's usually a 0-patch which only contains explanations of the series), but it's clearly not true, since we have patches like that weekly. In the last seven days the kernel mailing list has seen at least four such series where patches depend at least partly on each other: - Kay Sievers: driver core: export MAJOR/MINOR to the hotplug (0-7) - Andreas Gruenbacher: NFSACL protocol extension for NFSv3 (0-13) - Roland Dreier: InfiniBand updates for 0-12 - Roland McGrath: per-process timers (1-7) and that was from just a quick look. It seems to be almost a daily occurrence. In short: listen to Arjan, because he is wise. And stop making totally idiotic excuses that are clearly not true. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/