Return-Path: <linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org>
Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand
	id <S265466AbRGCFLB>; Tue, 3 Jul 2001 01:11:01 -0400
Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org
	id <S265473AbRGCFKw>; Tue, 3 Jul 2001 01:10:52 -0400
Received: from 35.roland.net ([65.112.177.35]:63247 "EHLO earth.roland.net")
	by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id <S265466AbRGCFKr>;
	Tue, 3 Jul 2001 01:10:47 -0400
Message-ID: <000201c1037e$95403420$bb1cfa18@JimWS>
From: "Jim Roland" <jroland@roland.net>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
In-Reply-To: <200107021509.KAA52993@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0107021307160.3665-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> <9hqc7h$b7f$1@cesium.transmeta.com>
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 13:35:14 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200
Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org
X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org

@Home tells you the same thing.  Although they portscanned me frequently,
they were checking for specific servers and actually deny traffic on ports
135-139 (Winblows traffic).  Unless they change over to non-routables (which
would kill things like ICQ, etc) they will not be able to stop me from using
ssh or others for remote access.  @Home and other providers get around the
"server" issue by capping your maximum outbound bandwidth.  This is
something I have had to live with when upload FTP files to some off-site
game servers I own.



----- Original Message -----
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!


> Followup to:
<Pine.LNX.4.21.0107021307160.3665-100000@benatar.snurgle.org>
> By author:    William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>
> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Jesse Pollard wrote:
> >
> > > Better re-read the fine print on the "fair-use" statement. BOTH DSL
> > > and Cable, or dialup (New Orleans at least) will disconnect you if you
> > > run ANY unattended operation (if they determine it IS unattended). No
> >
> > This would take a lot of watching on their part.
> >
> > My cable company occasionally portscans me, so I blackholed the
> > portscanning machine.  Even before I had done that, though, they never
> > complained about my remote logins.  They only complain if you use
> > excessive bandwidth or if you do anything commercial.
> >
> > The DSL provider here, when it was still US West, explicitly stated to
me
> > (over the phone) that they absolutely did not care what I did with it as
> > long as it was not illegal.  However they would still not give you a
> > static IP address unless you paid them extra money. :}
> >
>
> When I got Pac*Smell DSL, the installer guy (who seemed to be a
> relatively clueful type) said "and [the contract] says you're not
> allowed to run a server... but who'd know?"
>
> -hpa
>
> --
> <hpa@transmeta.com> at work, <hpa@zytor.com> in private!
> "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot."
> http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt
> -
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
> Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/
>

-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/