Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262287AbVAZNMw (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:12:52 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262288AbVAZNMw (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:12:52 -0500 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([212.18.232.186]:24083 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262287AbVAZNMt (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:12:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:12:34 +0000 From: Russell King To: Christoph Hellwig , Evgeniy Polyakov , Jean Delvare , Greg KH , LKML Subject: Re: 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: SuperIO scx200 breakage Message-ID: <20050126131234.A30805@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Hellwig , Evgeniy Polyakov , Jean Delvare , Greg KH , LKML References: <20050124021516.5d1ee686.akpm@osdl.org> <20050124175449.GK3515@stusta.de> <20050124213442.GC18933@kroah.com> <20050124214751.GA6396@infradead.org> <20050125060256.GB2061@kroah.com> <20050125195918.460f2b10.khali@linux-fr.org> <20050126003927.189640d4@zanzibar.2ka.mipt.ru> <20050125224051.190b5ff9.khali@linux-fr.org> <20050126013556.247b74bc@zanzibar.2ka.mipt.ru> <20050126101434.GA7897@infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20050126101434.GA7897@infradead.org>; from hch@infradead.org on Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 10:14:34AM +0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1838 Lines: 38 On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 10:14:34AM +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > That's simply not true. The amount of patches submitted is extremly > huge and the reviewers don't have time to look at everythning. > > If no one replies it simply means no one has looked at it in enough > detail to comment yet. How do people get to know this? Grape vines and crystal balls are inherently unreliable. I think that if someone overlooks the patches when they're on the mailing lists and then complains when they're merged into the kernel, they have very little justification when trying to make it the patch submitters problem. It's clearly an overall failing of the community to have enough resources to review the patches before inclusion. Frequently I end up with the situation where *NO* *ONE* seems interested in my patches and I throw them at Linus anyway after months have gone by. Maybe I'm just lucky that no one bothers to read my patches or everyone is implicitly exstatic with them. Nevertheless, I'm forced by the lack of response from LKML to follow precisely the same rule - no response implies people are happy. In reality, not doing so would mean I'd never get any patches merged which is unacceptable. So, if the community has a problem with enough time to review patches, the community must get more (good) patch reviewers. We can't go around blaming the patch submitters for a community failing. -- Russell King Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ maintainer of: 2.6 PCMCIA - http://pcmcia.arm.linux.org.uk/ 2.6 Serial core - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/