Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262705AbVA0S5V (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:57:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262708AbVA0S4z (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:56:55 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64]:31681 "EHLO sccrmhc13.comcast.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262705AbVA0SzH (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:55:07 -0500 Message-ID: <41F93926.4090401@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:55:34 -0500 From: John Richard Moser User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041211) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Arjan van de Ven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org Subject: Re: Patch 4/6 randomize the stack pointer References: <20050127101117.GA9760@infradead.org> <20050127101322.GE9760@infradead.org> <41F92721.1030903@comcast.net> <1106848051.5624.110.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <41F92D2B.4090302@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1542 Lines: 49 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote: > >>Real engineering is about doing a good job balancing different issues. > > [...] > test. Maybe such a vendor understands that you have to ease into things, > and you can't just say "this is how it has to be done from now on". > My idea of "Easing into things" is dropping the full model in the guy's face and saying "Here, this is what we want to do. It's there, you don't have to use it, but you should be mindful because it's better and in the future people will want it." Then people will wait to turn it on until everything is written to work with it--and every developer will see it and know that that is there and that certain things need to be done. You don't have to beat them with a crowbar until they listen, but you have to show them what they're supposed to do. > Linus > - -- All content of all messages exchanged herein are left in the Public Domain, unless otherwise explicitly stated. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB+TklhDd4aOud5P8RArG1AJ48Sno5o0MywWKcwFIF2n8GapOLrACffZDG KzNjlsb8m2DWVaPEt+yfQ+k= =BBA9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/