Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:46:03 -0500
From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: Patch 1/6  introduce sysctl
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 08:11:20PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:

 > so, i'm glad to report, it's a non-issue. Sometimes developers want to
 > disable randomisation during development (quick'n'easy hacks get quicker
 > and easier - e.g. if you watch an address within gdb), so having the
 > capability for unprivileged users to disable randomisation on the fly is
 > useful and Fedora certainly offers that, but from a support and
 > bug-reporting POV it's not a problem.

It's worth noting that some users have found the randomisation disable useful
for running things like xine/mplayer etc with win32 codecs that seem
to just segfault otherwise.  These things seem to be incredibly fragile
to address space layout changes, which is a good argument for trying to
avoid these wierdo formats where possible in favour of free codecs.

		Dave

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