Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262715AbVA0TyQ (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:54:16 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262717AbVA0TyQ (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:54:16 -0500 Received: from canuck.infradead.org ([205.233.218.70]:6414 "EHLO canuck.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262715AbVA0Txt (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:53:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Patch 1/6 introduce sysctl From: Arjan van de Ven To: Dave Jones Cc: Ingo Molnar , Pavel Machek , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org In-Reply-To: <20050127194603.GA31127@redhat.com> References: <20050127101117.GA9760@infradead.org> <20050127101201.GB9760@infradead.org> <20050127181525.GA4784@elf.ucw.cz> <20050127191120.GA10460@elte.hu> <20050127194603.GA31127@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:53:36 +0100 Message-Id: <1106855616.5624.125.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 4.1 (++++) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 2.63 on canuck.infradead.org summary: Content analysis details: (4.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.3 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains a numeric HELO 1.1 RCVD_IN_DSBL RBL: Received via a relay in list.dsbl.org [] 2.5 RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK RBL: Sent directly from dynamic IP address [80.57.133.107 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS RBL: SORBS: sender is listed in SORBS [80.57.133.107 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by canuck.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1332 Lines: 27 On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 14:46 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 08:11:20PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > so, i'm glad to report, it's a non-issue. Sometimes developers want to > > disable randomisation during development (quick'n'easy hacks get quicker > > and easier - e.g. if you watch an address within gdb), so having the > > capability for unprivileged users to disable randomisation on the fly is > > useful and Fedora certainly offers that, but from a support and > > bug-reporting POV it's not a problem. > > It's worth noting that some users have found the randomisation disable useful > for running things like xine/mplayer etc with win32 codecs that seem > to just segfault otherwise. These things seem to be incredibly fragile > to address space layout changes, which is a good argument for trying to > avoid these wierdo formats where possible in favour of free codecs. actually that's because windows has a different initial stack alignment that wine compensates but I guess xine/mplayer don't. with p4's you get that anyway (and glibc and ..) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/