Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270447AbVBFH3Y (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Feb 2005 02:29:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270613AbVBFH3W (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Feb 2005 02:29:22 -0500 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([17.250.248.46]:47819 "EHLO smtpout.mac.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S270447AbVBFHZu (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Feb 2005 02:25:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9e473391050205224960767ad0@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e4733910502051745c25d6f@mail.gmail.com> <20050206040526.GA2908@redhat.com> <9e4733910502052158491b5ce3@mail.gmail.com> <20050206060839.GA19330@redhat.com> <9e473391050205224960767ad0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <48A69787-7810-11D9-82FF-000393ACC76E@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dave Jones , lkml From: Kyle Moffett Subject: Re: Intel AGP support attaching to wrong PCI IDs Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 02:25:31 -0500 To: Jon Smirl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2174 Lines: 51 On Feb 06, 2005, at 01:49, Jon Smirl wrote: > X on GL is already written and is part of the xserver project. This > will run on the standalone OpenGL stack. Combine this with Cairo/Glitz > and we have a graphics system that can compete with Windows Longhorn. Why compete with vaporware (mostly)? If you really want to see a complete modern graphics system, check out OS X. See the below screenshots for one example. http://tjhsst.edu/~kmoffett/2k4-1.png http://tjhsst.edu/~kmoffett/2k4-2.png The rendered window from 2k4 has been distorted by the windowing system post-processing using a mesh transform. It runs just as quickly this way as it does full screen normally, at least as far as I can tell while playing. :-D A truely well-performing graphics system should be able to handle multiple applications processing to generate a single output stream without effort. I also ran some informal and simple end-user-style tests a while back where I rapidly switched between and moved around the following windows (each distorted in the same way): 1) A UT2k4 window playing a demo 2) A couple translucent terminal windows continuously scrolling text 3) A DVD player window playing The Matrix 4) A couple Quicktime player windows with movies running The best part was: ~60 FPS on everything, despite the distortions, translucency, rapid movement, DVD playing, etc. I hope that when the new linux graphics and Soft-RT stuff is done it will be able to achieve similar performance. If my coding skills were a little more up to snuff, I would try to help out, but as it is, I fear I'd just muddy the waters :-\. Cheers, Kyle Moffett -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCM/CS/IT/U d- s++: a18 C++++>$ UB/L/X/*++++(+)>$ P+++(++++)>$ L++++(+++) E W++(+) N+++(++) o? K? w--- O? M++ V? PS+() PE+(-) Y+ PGP+++ t+(+++) 5 X R? tv-(--) b++++(++) DI+ D+ G e->++++$ h!*()>++$ r !y?(-) ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/