Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29
From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
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Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 16:28:20 +0100
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On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 10:03 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> >>I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise 
> >>user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups.
> > 
> > 
> > the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support
> > patches. And for new DRM (since new X may need it) and new .. and
> > new ... where is the line?
> > 
> > for me a deep maintenance mode is about keeping existing stuff working;
> > all new hw support and derivative hardware support (such as this) can be
> > pointed at the new stable series... which has been out for quite some
> > time now..
> 
> Red herring.
> 
> 2.4.x has ICH5/6 support -- but is missing the RAID support component.
> 
> We are talking about hardware that is ALREADY supported by 2.4.x kernel, 
> not new hardware.

I'm talking about derivative hardware support. While this is not
technically a hardware device driver, it sure is similar to one.

> We are also talking about inability to access data on hardware supported 
> by 2.4.x, not something that can easily be ignored or papered over with 
> a compatibility mode.

It's a new feature. It's support for a hw related feature not previously
supported. Now you can argue if such a new feature is appropriate or
not, but I don't see any way of arguing that this is not a new feature.

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