Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261770AbVBIDkm (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:40:42 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261772AbVBIDkl (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:40:41 -0500 Received: from ipcop.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.15]:35201 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261770AbVBIDkd (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:40:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:40:30 -0800 To: Roman Zippel Cc: Jon Smirl , "Theodore Ts'o" , Stelian Pop , Francois Romieu , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto Message-ID: <20050209034030.GC4828@bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: lm@bitmover.com, Roman Zippel , Jon Smirl , Theodore Ts'o , Stelian Pop , Francois Romieu , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20050208155845.GB14505@bitmover.com> <20050208181634.GA20261@bitmover.com> <20050209000733.GA6308@thunk.org> <9e47339105020818242fd9f6fa@mail.gmail.com> <20050209023928.GB4828@bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2328 Lines: 49 On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 03:47:49AM +0100, Roman Zippel wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > Nice, Roman. All I need is a cooperating third party who is willing to > > give me your code under a different (albeit invalid) license. > > Short version: Bullshit. > Long version: See previous mails. Let's try that again: Short version: let's violate a license. Long version: let's violate a license and see if we get in trouble. Roman, we can do this forever. Every time you cause a fuss more people become aware of how unreasonable you are being. That's fine with me, come on back and flame some more. Our position is clear: we are trying to do the right thing for Linux, we've developed a business model which works, we're committed to helping Linux. Yup, you're right, we aren't helping *you* in a way you like. On the other hand, we are helping you, we've been doing it for years, and we've been doing it in spite of you being a complete jerk about it. And we'll keep doing it no matter how much of a jerk you want to be because, surprise!, it isn't really about you. It's about Linux. And in so far as Linux is concerned, you are even less relevant than we are and we aren't that big of a deal. So Linux wins, you get to complain, life goes on. You know, you could change all this. Instead of complaining that we are somehow hurting you, which virtually 100% of the readers know is nonsense, you could be producing an alternative answer which is better. Instead of doing that you keep whining that we aren't helping you do that and that isn't fair. Hey, come on, get a grip. I'm not out hear whining that the GPL isn't fair to my agenda even though it frequently isn't. I work around it if it is important. If not using BK is important to you then don't use it. If having a free software SCM system is important to you then create one. But whining that we aren't helping you is beyond pathetic and I am 100% positive I'm not alone in that opinion. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/