Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261993AbVBJAuu (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:50:50 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261997AbVBJAuu (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:50:50 -0500 Received: from ipcop.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.15]:24715 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261993AbVBJAun (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:50:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:50:41 -0800 To: Roman Zippel Cc: Nicolas Pitre , Jon Smirl , tytso@mit.edu, Stelian Pop , Francois Romieu , lkml Subject: Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto Message-ID: <20050210005041.GA26312@bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: lm@bitmover.com, Roman Zippel , Nicolas Pitre , Jon Smirl , tytso@mit.edu, Stelian Pop , Francois Romieu , lkml References: <20050209184629.GR22893@bitmover.com> <20050209235312.GA25351@bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2013 Lines: 39 On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 01:14:43AM +0100, Roman Zippel wrote: > [long explanation which is summarized as "it's hard"] > So doing the work is one thing, getting a result within my lifetime would > be nice too. I understand the complexity you are facing. This may be hard for you to believe but we have solved problems that are quite a bit more complex than what you are trying to do and then gave you the solution for free. This problem is nowhere near as hard as you are making it out to be but it is hard. But it's not that bad, we do this every time we do a CVS import, we have to intuit the changeset boundaries themselves, which is actually harder than what you are trying to do. Think about taking revision history without any changeset grouping and recreating the changesets (aka patches). We do that all the time, automatically. If we can do that then you can do this. Yeah, it's hard, though, I admit that. This is a bit of a cheap shot but you did say that this stuff was easy, remember? Yeah, you may hate me for making you realize it is hard but maybe you'll start to respect what it is we have given you. That would be cool. Anyway, you can do this. It will probably take you a couple of months of 80 hour weeks. Does that suck? Maybe. Bear in mind that we have given you *years* of 80 hour weeks. Years. Many of them unpaid. So suck it up and get to work, we did. You might have fun doing this, you know. These problems, while hard, have some very satisfying mathematical qualities and that's really fun coming from the kernel background where things are far less deterministic. You can actually write proofs about how things work for a change. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/