Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262009AbVBKIwF (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:52:05 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262015AbVBKIwF (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:52:05 -0500 Received: from postimies.kymp.net ([80.248.96.135]:27397 "EHLO vesta.kymp.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262009AbVBKIvz (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:51:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:51:53 +0200 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: the "Turing Attack" (was: Sabotaged PaXtest) Message-ID: <20050211085153.GA22540@bostik.iki.fi> Reply-To: Mika Bostrom References: <42080689.15768.1B0C5E5F@localhost> <42093CC7.5086.1FC83D3E@localhost> <20050208164815.GA9903@elte.hu> <20050208220851.GA23687@elte.hu> <20050210134314.GA4146@elte.hu> <20050210135845.GT347@unthought.net> <20050210152149.GA6697@elte.hu> <20050210200300.GE19998@khan.acc.umu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050210200300.GE19998@khan.acc.umu.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: bostik@bostik.iki.fi (Mika Bostrom) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2175 Lines: 61 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Posted only on LKML, this has become humour.] On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 09:03:00PM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: > On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 04:21:49PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > >=20 > > * Jakob Oestergaard wrote: > > > > PaX cannot be a 'little bit pregnant'. (you might argue that exec-s= hield > > > > is in the 6th month, but that does not change the fundamental > > > > end-result: a child will be born ;-) > > >=20 > > > Yes and no. I would think that the chances of a child being born are > > > greater if the pregnancy has lasted successfully up until the 6th mon= th, > > > compared to a first week pregnancy. > > >=20 > > > I assume you get my point :) > >=20 > > the important point is: neither PaX nor exec-shield can claim _for sure_ > > that no child will be born, and neither can claim virginity ;-) > >=20 > > [ but i guess there's a point where a bad analogy must stop ;) ] >=20 > Yeah, sex is *usually* a much more pleasant experience than having your > machine broken into, even if it results in a pregnancy. =3D) I'll bite, before anyone else says it... It can not be a mere coincidence that the most rigorous security audits include penetration testing. --=20 Mika Bostr=F6m +358-40-525-7347 \-/ "World peace will be achieved Bostik@iki.fi www.iki.fi/bostik X when the last man has killed Security freak, and proud of it. /-\ the second-to-last." -anon? --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCDHIpv829VwOfGI4RAnOhAJ4milQBuKBo4h+3hpsTfmAuUiATiACgh+kV fFsU+y2YdbnbJ26o56eJiaE= =QutP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/