Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262264AbVBKQNw (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:13:52 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262266AbVBKQNw (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:13:52 -0500 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.195]:34951 "EHLO rproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262264AbVBKQNX (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:13:23 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=jIH1rvuoByHuP7iNnyBBgTjzl8mTQE+76O9js4l1wlC1n8u3y9JnVjhb2+SwsXzIQcacRm7PYlPLuaykfgI4wmt9MeP/9vofuapI9BDJ7YEPYmLW+0Jt1KmmUXyNhcXpjNQnlKqFeaoNk4z6BAHAYliVjECFcan8RcMT2h4/YjA= Message-ID: <9e473391050211081338f9d84e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:13:23 -0500 From: Jon Smirl Reply-To: Jon Smirl To: Alexandre Oliva Subject: Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto Cc: Larry McVoy , Stelian Pop , Francois Romieu , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050204201157.GN27707@bitmover.com> <20050205193848.GH5028@deep-space-9.dsnet> <20050205233841.GA20875@bitmover.com> <20050208154343.GH3537@crusoe.alcove-fr> <20050208155845.GB14505@bitmover.com> <20050209155113.GA10659@bitmover.com> <20050210211700.GA26361@bitmover.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2206 Lines: 48 On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:39:47 -0800 (PST), Alexandre Oliva wrote: > The bit I don't understand is that you've claimed you'd be willing to > implement the code needed to export the additional information that > Roman, myself and probably many others would like to have, if someone > would pay for that, but you're not willing to grant him access to this > information such that he can write the code himself. How come you > wouldn't welcome a BK-export piece of software that you could use > yourself to create and maintain the CVS tree, without having to > develop and maintain the software, and insist on developing such > software yourself, but only if someone else pays for it? Think about it from Larry's side for a minute. BK is a proprietary piece of software, it is not open source. That means that anyone who works on it needs to be an employee or contractor of Bitmover and have signed all of the appropriate non-disclosure and non-compete documents. These documents exist at all proprietary software companies, they are not specific to Bitmover. None of you guys are willing to sign those documents. It's not Larry choosing not to have you do the work, you are self selecting not to do it because you won't sign the contracts. Larry also has to be reasonably confident that if you do sign you won't violate them. The conclusion is that someone else who is willing to sign the documents has to do the work. That person needs to be hired and paid. It is unreasonable to ask Larry to add features like you want on his own dime. There is a solution on the table: 1) Written proposal describing in detail the commands you want added to bk 2) Submit it for a quote. 3) Raise the money 4) Negotiate for exact delivery dates. Since no one has bothered to put together a real proposal, I can only conclude that you are more interested in writing email complaints than actually achieving a solution. -- Jon Smirl jonsmirl@gmail.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/