Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262326AbVBKUAz (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:00:55 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262325AbVBKUAz (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:00:55 -0500 Received: from ipcop.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.15]:52385 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262326AbVBKUAn (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:00:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:00:41 -0800 To: Alexandre Oliva Cc: Jon Smirl , Stelian Pop , Francois Romieu , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto Message-ID: <20050211200041.GB24759@bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: lm@bitmover.com, Alexandre Oliva , Jon Smirl , Stelian Pop , Francois Romieu , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20050205233841.GA20875@bitmover.com> <20050208154343.GH3537@crusoe.alcove-fr> <20050208155845.GB14505@bitmover.com> <20050209155113.GA10659@bitmover.com> <20050210211700.GA26361@bitmover.com> <9e473391050211081338f9d84e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2011 Lines: 38 On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 03:22:34PM -0200, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Feb 11, 2005, Jon Smirl wrote: > > > It's not Larry choosing not to have you do the work, you are self > > selecting not to do it because you won't sign the contracts. > > No. We don't want access to the BK software. We want access to the > data that is stored in the repository, that's all. No, you want access to the metadata that BK uses to store the data. It would be nice if you were to stop pretending that access to that data wouldn't teach you anything, we all know that not to be true. All the claims you make that it is your data are as wrong as saying you own the file system metadata when you store a file or the database metadata when you store a record. You don't. You just want it. It's not a smart move for us to give it to you since you have stated that the only good use of a commercial product is to create an open source copy of it. It's pretty clear what you want to do and you keep asking for us to help you and the answer now, and forever, is no, we aren't going to help you create a copy of our product. You or Roman or whoever will say "we aren't trying to create a copy of your product" and that's nonsense. You want a product that stores the data in exactly the same way as BK, that's why you keep asking for the metadata. If you wanted to create your own system you wouldn't care, you already have the CVS tree, it has 96% of the deltas that the BK tree has. 96%. So you are trying to tell us all that you need the last 4% of the deltas so you can create a *different* system than BK? Come on, gimme a break already, you aren't fooling anyone. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/